At 12:54 PM 7/28/04 +0200, Josť M. Vicente Gomila wrote:

Dear Yevgeny,

I recognize I like to read some of your critics and articles in the Anti Triz-Journal. I even read some with some humour which I hope is part of the spirit of your style. And with this little humour I send you a comment on your topic about 'triznicks':

"However, I could not find a proper English suffix. TRIZist, TRIZian, TRIZer, etc sounded ugly. The contradiction: there should be a suffix and there is no proper suffix - was resolved as follows..."

If you read my paper "How TRIZ demonstrates again that research by trial and error can be very costly" in the TRIZ-Journal, there I explain a problem we often face: an information problem instead of an inventive problem. In your statement it is an informatin problem and not an inventive contradiction (there should be a suffix and we could not find a proper suffix)

"Suffix had to be taken from another language. However, it had to be such a suffix, which was familiar to the English speakers."

Here I agree there is an inventive contradiction: it is unfamiliar but it should be (sound) familiar

Regards ,

Josť M. Vicente Gomila
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At 11:18 PM 8/4/04 -0400, Yevgeny Karasik wrote:

Dear Jose,

I have read your paper. I disagree with you that there is a clear distinction between inventive problems and information problems. If you read the editorial this month, it explains that most inventive problems are in fact information problems. Most contradictions arise because we do not know something. Research allows to find the missing piece of information and "overcome" the contradiction on the way to invention. In fact in most cases, contradictions are not "overcome" or "resolved" but just eliminated.

Regards,

Yevgeny


At 11:23 AM 8/5/04 +0200, Josť M. Vicente Gomila wrote

Dear Yevgeny,

thanks for "losing" :-) time reading my paper, your comments, while direct, help me to learn more. Now my statement: according to your comments and editorials then why learn anything about TRIZ, it is better to do research like made since the prehistory.

Best regards,

Jose


At 02:27 PM 8/7/04 -0400, Yevgeny Karasik wrote:

Dear Jose,

1) If something is old or even "pre-historical", it does not mean that it is bad. Also, if something is new, it does not mean that it is good.

2) Knowledge of TRIZ does not eliminate need in research.

3) Very often TRIZ recipes are useless whereas research is helpful.

Sincerely,

Yevgeny