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Date: 21 September 2002
Wm. Saunder’s Rose Society

The September meeting started a bit late because of the unseen need to rent a projector. While we waited, memberships and address lists were updated, introductions took place, chats ensued and rooted cuttings were given away. The meeting was held in the auditorium of Spruce Lodges in Stratford, ON, arranged for us by local member, John F.A. Smith. Thanks were given to him, unfortunately in his absence, since he was picking up the projector. Greetings were given to members, Nancy and Lindsay Wilcox of Hamilton, ON.

Old Business
On request to approve the minutes of the March 2 2002 meeting, Richard Cartwright asked that they be amended. The WSRS display table was not at the St. Thomas Horticultural Show, June 3rd, but at the Elgin County Master Gardener's ‘Digging in the Dirt'. Secretary, Steve Elkerton, then moved to approve the minutes. It was seconded by Baz Kelly and carried unanimously.
Al Whitfield's Treasurer's Report showed an increased balance from $895.16 in March to $1,290.19 in September. Al moved to adopt the report, Richard Cartwright seconded the motion, and the report was approved unanimously.

Report on Activities
President, Harry McGee, reported on the bulk orders received last April, all of which were distributed from his garage. He was quite satisfied with the results.
Fred Kristoff gave a brief run down on the Niagara Tour last June, on the 26th. All in all, another very successful trip . In fact, the only problem heard was the wish to have had more time at each stop. Thanks for all of the organizational work of Jennifer Grant, Richard Cartwright, Bill Lovelock and George Rae from Fred.
Winners of the Novice Rose awards were announced:
    Lucinda Quirk of the Lambeth Hort.
    Hugh Murray of the London Hort.
    Natalie Catt of the St. Thomas Hort.
    Liza Luyten of the Stratford Hort.
A certificate of membership was awarded Liza who was in attendance.
Richard Cartwright reported on recent aquisitions to the WSRS Library, among which were Lois Hole's ‘Rose Favourites', a large volume on antique roses by Krussmann, and one by the hybridizer, Edward Le Grice. Letters of appreciation and thanks are to sent to both Paula Martin and Mrs. Stanley Jenkins. Fred Kristoff, and Lindsay Wilcox offered their back issues of the American Rose Society magazine.
Harry McGee reported on the progress of N-R-C. Officers have been elected in each area of the country. Harry offered copies of the new ‘Journal N-R-C' for a nominal fee. There is also now a formal seal, but still many government forms yet to complete. Unfortunately, the member society for BC pulled out of the federation; however, the Vancouver Rose Society is being solicited to replace it. N-R-C is trying to set up societies currently in Ottawa, Quebec, New Brunswick and BC. Lindsay Wilcox congratulated Harry on the formation of N-R-C, but feels a web site necessary. Harry said one was coming. Lindsay also felt rapprochement with the CRS be made. Harry replied that, at present, it seems unlikely.

New Business
Harry McGee outlined the procedure for ordering roses from Pickering's. People were only interested in spring delivery.
Harry also spoke of the opportunity to dig up 17 Hybrid Musk roses in front of the home of Mr. Alan Binks of Lambeth.
Fred Kristoff moved that the nominating committee for the 2003 elections be the whole board of directors. It was seconded by Bill Lovelock and approved unanimously.

The Speaker
Lindsay Wilcox presented a slide presentation of his and wife, Nancy's, two acre property in Hamilton, ON. He began by thanking John Smith, who reappeared during an earlier part of the meeting, for finding a projector. He also thanked his wife, Nancy, for help in the gardens and for being his guiding angel.
The slide show began with shots of a bed of Gallicas which had completely overgrown the modern repeat bloomers in the same bed and have become huge, some to 6'. He showed two favourite roses, Wm. Baffin and Awakening, a more double sport of New Dawn, which, he says, grows like a weed, repeats well and has deep glossy leaves. He continued with disease resistant Albas like the very fragrant Queen of Denmark. He showed the beautiful, non-recurrent climber/shrub, Alchemist; the continuous blooming Kordes rose, Angela; an English Ayrshire rambler called Splendins; the Hybrid Musk with dainty flower, Ballerina; a Canadian shrub/climber by Mekdeci called Butterflies, which has blooms orange through red; Carmenetta, also Canadian, with very nice, non-recurrent blooms, very like R. Glauca; City of York, a huge white rambler which blooms from the middle of June to the middle of July; Doronbos Selection, a low grower with miniature like blooms that suckers like crazy from Corn Hill Nurseries; The English roses, Fair Bianca, a nice white, the almost black Transcendent and Chianti, the most floriforous though non-recurrent and highly susceptible to black spot. He continued with two more Canadian roses, Henry Kelsey (trouble free but loved by caterpillars) and the deep pink John Cabot. He followed with the wonderful, old, recurrent (but on short stems) Marchesse Bocella (Jacques Cartier); Alain Blanchard, a disease resistant, grow-anywhere Gallica; James Mason, another Gallica which suckers like crazy and has deep bright red blooms; President de Seze, a very fragrant, bi-coloured Gallica; Tuscany Superb; and La Belle Sultane, which is very beautiful but blooms for only two weeks. He showed Gypsy Boy, a Bourbon, and commented that they don't grow well in zone 6.
There was R. Multiflora, which he grows to experiment with- a graft here; a graft there. He showed Heideshnee, a good repeating, single white; Wm. Lobb, a typical moss, which leaves a wonderful fragrance on one's fingers when they are run over the moss; and some Eddy roses. He spoke of his favourites for fragrance, the Musk roses, which have very long leaves and few prickles, particularly Paul's Himalayan Musk. He showed Nevada, Orange Mother's Day (a nice polyantha), Rugelda ( a yellow, repeating rugosa with red tips to the petals, not as winter hardy as most rugosas); Linda Campbell, a red rugosa; Topaz Jewel, another yellow; and Grootendorst Supreme.
Throughout the presentation, Nancy offered names and encouragement. The reason so many of the roses in the garden are hardy and relatively (for a rose) easy care is that both of the Wilcox s have full time jobs, and it was impossible to maintain a garden that couldn't, in many ways, tend for itself. A round of applause thanked Lindsay for his efforts.

Questions and Answers
Steve Elkerton was interested in learning from those who don't spray for fungus what their most resistant roses are. They are as follows:
   Scabrosa    Tournament of Roses    Knockout    Little Firefall
   Aachener Dom Charlotte    the Explorer roses
   the rugosas    Sunsilk    Iceberg Coral Dawn
   Bonica    the Fairy    Prima Donn
Those seemingly drought resistant:
   Hansa    Tournament of Roses    Black Ruby Aachener Dom
   Nantucket    Lichtkonigen Lucia    Kazanlik (Trigintipetela)
   Eos    the Explorers    Sunsilk Bonica
   the Fairy    Carefree Delight

Show and Tell
Harry McGee had samples of crown gall and robin's pin cushion (rose cane gall), a reddish fur-ball, to show.
He reminded everyone of the World Rose Society Convention in July 2003.
There was mention of the rooted cuttings that were up for grab and discussion of those hard to root like Stanwell Perpetual, Nevada and Graham Thomas.

Next Meeting, etc.
There was confirmation that the next meeting, our Annual General Meeting, would be held again this year at the Fairwinds Lodge Complex in Sarnia on November 2 (Hwy 402 to Modeland; right onto Modeland North to Michigan; left (west) on Michigan to the Fairwinds Lodge on the right (north) side of the street). The meeting will take place in their conference room. As of this meeting, eight of the twelve spots at the luncheon were taken. Please take blooms as gifts for the seniors if you have them.
The question as to whether we need an independent, financial examiner was raised. A show of hands, all, determined that no examiner was necessary.
Sarah Kelly is going to arrange for name tags for the meetings.
After refreshments, everyone was invited to follow our host, John Smith, on a tour of municipal gardens.
The refreshments were provided by our host. Many thanks, John.

Diane Vaughan made the motion to terminate the meeting.

The aforementioed minutes are, to the best of our knowledge, an accurate account of the meeting of the Wm. Saunders Rose Society.

Stephen Elkerton, Secretary

Approved by Harry McGee, President

Distribution: all members, patrons, citation holders, and honorary members.

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